The epoxy job over the guide wraps was too heavy, one of the reasons we downgraded the craftsmanship slightly. He didn’t want to get more specific and give away their secrets, but these changes allow Douglas to build the new SKY G with less material, resulting in a much lighter and stronger rod. You choose a fly rod with your purpose in mind, we'll build it the same way. There is only one wide up-locking ring, with a nylon ring on the upper side, but it seems to lock up securely enough. $23.15 shipping. 6 weight. The Expeditor service fee for the Asquith rods is $250.00 for ground or $275 for 2-day air. Let's start down at the handle of the TROUT LL, where you'll find a snub-nosed super-plus cork grip. The X rod’s all-new fast action taper built with our KonneticHD Technology delivers greater blank recovery and a crisper tip stop - creating tighter, more efficient loops throughout all ranges of casting styles. Leading Manufacturer of Fly Fishing Rods, Reels, & Accessories - Sage Fly Fish It tracks beautifully and is giving me very good accuracy and feel. The Orvis Helios 3F is another terrific rod from Orvis that we had not been able to test in our previous 5-weight Shootout. Here is another very attractive rod that you’ll be proud to show off to your fishing friends. Rio GoldWF5F fly line Very impressed with the new Sage X Fly Rod. If we could control the wind, so all the rods tested were evaluated in identical wind conditions from one minute to the next, we would do so. The best 5-weight rods need to have excellent loop control and the ability to throw very tight loops, especially if you have some wind to contend with. Since our Hot Butt leaders use the same basic formula as our Clear Butt leaders I often use the Hot Butt leaders, even for fishing dry flies. We have found that faster action rods with softer tips give you better feel, improved accuracy, and more delicate presentations, especially at closer distances. A slightly softer tip would help in close. If they had cast the rod, I don’t think they would have voted it as the best freshwater rod! Now you do not have to ship the broken rod to Douglas. The butt and mid-sections flex pretty much the same with slight differences in stiffness. We look at many things to determine craftsmanship – What types of guides are used? Scott – Lifetime warranty to original owner, $50 handling fee. Many anglers use them only for fishing dry flies, while others use them primarily for nymph fishing, often with an indicator, two nymphs and even some weight like split shot. We don’t normally ask a 5-weight to cast 70 feet and beyond, but the best Power Rods, with an expert caster at the controls, can easily cast all the line – 90 to one 100 feet. One of the biggest differences is how much lighter in swing weight the new SKY G is than the old NRX LP. If you look at the first deflection chart that shows the NRX LP with the SKY G you’ll see how similarly these rods deflect; this was very evident when we cast the rods out on the lawn. The presentations are light and delicate. This is one incredible rod! The Zephrus and Helios 3F carried tighter loops though, and gave me far better accuracy. The new NRX+ rods are the smoothest and best-dampened rods we’ve ever cast. Like the Zephrus, the quality of the cork is close to perfect, and better than other mid-priced rods. If broken from neglect or any other cause, you must use the Expeditor service. Thomas and Thomas – $55 repair charges for the original owner, includes shipping. Rods are repaired, not replaced. The new SKY G rods are composed using G-Tec platelets. The Loomis rods get a perfect score of 10 for their excellent Expeditor repair program which costs $100, but returns the angler a brand new rod, not a repaired one, in just a few days after you call them. To make it easy to judge the turnover and accuracy, we tie on a small fluorescent yarn indicator at the end of the leader that approximates casting a medium size dry fly. 2. The reel seat is up-locking and in great condition as well. Sage Response 9' 5-weight Review The Sage Response fly rod , new for 2013, replaces the Sage Flight as Sage's "entry-level", fast action rod. New rods must be registered at time of purchase. The rod wraps are nice. We are continually impressed at how much rod building craftsmanship has improved over the years. Nearly as good as the LP+ and SKY G. A very pleasant rod to cast, giving me smooth tight loops and excellent accuracy. A hook keeper sits above a beautiful cork winding check and the first guide is a titanium frame SIC stripping guide. The rest of the guides are hard chrome snake guides that we have found to be inferior to the flexible nickel/titanium guides. Lots of people are using 5-weight rods for nymph fishing, often using a strike indicator, along with a combination of two nymphs and possibly some split shot or tungsten putty. But we are seeing some terrific rods in both performance and craftsmanship coming from Korea. The Loop rods are designed in Sweden, while the Hardy and Fenwick rods are designed in England. The Sage Mod Fly Rod Series is built specifically for distances and situations most likely a trout fisherman would find themselves in. The gray anodized double up-locking skeleton reel seat uses nylon washers on the rings that give a very secure lock up. Craftsmanship is undeniably better on the most expensive rods, and with a few exceptions they perform better than the less expensive rods. Rods are either replaced with a new rod or the broken section is replaced. Tippet materials are getting stronger every year, and today we end up fishing 6x, 6.5X, and 7x fluorocarbon much of the time, trying to get that perfect drift to entice a big fish to sip in a fly. Casting and rating the performance of the rods at different distances is the real meat of our Shootouts, and also the reason we have separated out a chart that includes only the performance figures. This is a rod that performs extremely well at all distances, but is especially good in close, and in that 25-45 foot range that we are fishing so often. This reel is the one that won our 2016 5/6 Reel Shootout. Then, maintaining tight loops on your backcast, especially at the longer distances, was very difficult and we would usually give it up and hope for a better day. Don’t make this mistake. Howard was here in Montana earlier this fall to show us some new designs he’s working on for 2021. The Sage X casted very well with the in Touch Rio Gold Line. Same day or next day shipping if they have the parts in stock, if not, usually takes 2 weeks. As in our past Shootouts, it is crucial to make an effort to eliminate any variables that will have an effect on the scores at the different distances. The Aetos has been our most popular inexpensive fly rod in the 4-5-6 line sizes. Look at the deflection board and you’ll see that this is one of the softest rods in our Shootout, but the tip is much slower than the SKY G or LP+. On big rivers, fishing nymphs at long range using an indicator is certainly possible with one of the power 5-weights, but many anglers would then shift to a 6-weight or even a 7-weight rod. But will they make you a better angler? The RPL and Graphite III rods were probably what made Sage famous…really good and versatile rods in any weight. Our deflection charts have been so popular that we are giving you more in this Shootout. Knowing the new NRX+ is even tougher than the old one is very good news. I think the medium-fast action and softer tip are just about perfect. Better at mid-range but still not that great. The Hardy Shadow, at $359.95 was our best mid-priced rod in the Presentation group. This line has a head length of 35 feet and a shorter front taper of 6 feet. This is a very pleasant rod for fishing dries, where you are doing a lot of false casting. They both utilize a light shooting texture that delivers longer casts. That said, the rod is incredibly functional. This is a wonderful rod fishing dry flies at shorter distances. Orvis – 25 year no fault warranty to original owner. 2. Here’s a category that we used in our last 4-weight Shootout, and one that we feel is important when you are trying to judge the best 5-weight Presentation Rods. 5-Weight Presentation Rods more suited to fishing dry flies that give you the ultimate in accuracy, delicacy, and presentation. C $248.03. Rod Tube/Sock: Yes/Yes. Please note that the larger charts below for both the presentation and power rods are George’s scores only. But having to turn over a 12-foot leader forces a rod to perform at a higher level. Performing well at 70 feet is obviously more important in the Power Rod category than with the presentation rods. Like the Radian, the craftsmanship is top notch and what we have come to expect from Scott. Once the grip of the rod is placed precisely on the foam pellet, with the rod in a horizontal position, we apply pressure, by pressing down with a fingernail to the very end of the reel seat. Also in the Presentation group, the amazing Fenwick Aetos at $199.95 placed above the $800-$975 rods from Scott, Winston and Sage! The weight hampered the kind of feel I was getting compared with the best rods and the accuracy was nothing to write home about. Overall weight is certainly a factor, lighter being better, but the swing weight is far more important. We got the idea for this category years ago from the Car and Driver automobile Shootouts. The 3F performed extremely well, especially at the two longer distances. Overall it is a lot softer than the Avantt and its slower action hurt its performance, especially at long range. Patagonia Foot Tractor Wading Boots – Felt (Built By Danner), Armstrong Spring Creek on the O’Hair Ranch, https://douglasoutdoors.com/about/warranty-info/. Both the Trout and MPX lines shoot like crazy and have proven to be more durable and longer lasting than other lines we have fished over the years. Surprisingly, this is often true. 5-weight fly rods have become the single quiver rod for many freshwater anglers. As for reels, this year we again decided to use one of our all-time favorites, the Galvan Torque (T-5), loaded with 100 yards of 20 lb. Following the success of our 8-weight reel challenge, we wanted to take on a different aspect of the industry – this time one that has had a lot written about it – fly rods. Also right up at the top, scoring 9.5 are the Scott rods, like the Radian and G series, as well as the Orvis Helios 3F and 3D. This makes it easier to justify buying the best performing rod. Fred Contaoi, head rod designer for Douglas, did a marvelous job in re-designing the SKY G, giving us just what we were looking for in a rod that would produce the ultimate in accuracy and presentation. The black-anodized skeleton reel seat utilizes a single up-locking version with a nylon locking ring on the front side that gives a nice secure lock up. All are great anglers and accomplished casters. Over the years I’ve worked with G. Loomis, Sage, Scott, Winston, Tom Morgan Rodsmiths and Douglas in the design and testing of their rods. Non-original owner $150 per section. When used for trout fishing, 5-weights are wonderful rods for fishing dry flies but are also great rods for fishing nymphs and small streamers. Feel was decent but not as good as the best rods. At long range, things are starting to fall apart. Winston produces all these components themselves at their factory in Twin Bridges Montana. Winston tells us that the Air combines their Super Silica resin system with high modulus boron in the butt to reduce weight but as you’ll see in the Objective Observations chart, the Air was one of the heaviest presentation rods in both overall weight and swing weight. Pick any rod here that we rated a 9.2 or better and you have a real winner! $35 handling fee. If a rod looks like a million bucks and casts like it too, fly fishermen are going to lust for it. Fly Fishing Rod Sage Dart 376-3 New Unused With Case & Papers Very Nice! Wind speed is neither steady nor consistent. Now that we have eliminated our “Perfect 5” category, this category gives you our opinions on the best rods and how they stack up. Like many rods at this price point the Sage Response has a solid butt and mid section which give them good power but also the ability to dig fish out of deeper pools or turn over larger rigs while nymphing. A black anodized aluminum double up-locking reel seat is used, with an attractive piece of dark burled wood for the insert. If the rod is broken because of a defect, or while fishing, replacement is free. The epoxy coatings on the guide wraps are much better than we’ve seen previously from Sage. For these more powerful 5-weights, we tested them with the half size heavier Scientific Anglers Amplitude MPX lines, which are better at loading these stiffer rods. Rods are repaired, not replaced except for broken sections. It is however, a handsome rod with superb craftsmanship that we have come to expect from Sage. But they should also be able to easily form the more open loops you’ll want fishing nymphs. If more than one section is broken, the fee is $35 extra per section. There is no question that the Aetos is the best performing inexpensive rod in our whole Shootout! But the Radian is more of a power 5-weight and you’ll find that it places 2nd in our power rod final results. 5-Weight Power Rods that have the strength to cast more wind resistant dries, and also chuck nymphs with indicators, and even small streamers with ease. Once Fred understood what we liked in a 5-weight rod he changed the mandrels around which the rod is formed, as well as making changes to the materials and resins used. We talked to Fred at length about the older Loomis LP and why we liked it so much. On the other hand we have found the Asquith rods to be one of the toughest and most durable rods we’ve ever sold. I also liked the Sage X a lot better in the Power Rods category. Presentation Rods are not just dry fly rods though. Instead of a chart with all the rods, we are breaking this down into multiple charts for easier viewing. The Orvis Clearwater is our best inexpensive Power rod. We’ve found that fluctuating temperature and humidity from one day to the next can make a difference of .2-.3 ounces. Using a rod that dramatically reduces the number of break-offs makes a lot of sense. $75 handling fee to original owner, $150.00 charge to all others. All these changes result in rods that anglers are going to love. Sometimes the whole rod is replaced. A 12-foot leader keeps the fly line farther away from the fish, minimizing the number of fish you will spook while casting. Remember that it will cost you an additional $15 or more in postage to send in your rod, unless you are using the G. Loomis Expeditor program. I think the slower action and stiffer tip on the LL killed its chances to perform well. We have found that the new 5-weight rods are getting better and better each year. Best Mid-Priced Rod: At about half the cost, the Legend Elite runs neck-and … Temple Fork Outfitters (TFO) – Lifetime warranty to original owner. I’m convinced the key to catching more trout and especially larger trout, is casting accuracy. The one-coat epoxy coatings over the guide wraps are a little heavy but not sloppy. At least they are fairly thin in diameter to keep the weight down. As fly fisherman, we are always dealing with wind. This is a test that anyone can duplicate. The quality is top shelf as we’ve found on other high-end Orvis rods. The Air was also in our last 5-weight Shootout, but like this year it was a little disappointing in performance compared to the best rods. The T&T Avantt finishes 4th again, with the Orvis Helios 3D right behind it in 5th. Half wells grip on the freshwater line weights (3-6) and full wells (plus fighting butt) on the 7-weight and heavier. GL8 resin is “self-propagating”, meaning the resin creates its own nano-particles. You call in and they charge your credit card $100 but you get a brand new rod in 3-4 days. Like an Alfa Spider, Greys faded out of the mainstream and into the fond memory of enthusiasts. They use a stack of high quality cork rings but I’m seeing a little more filler than I found on the similar grips on the G. Loomis and Scott rods. To my way of thinking, the best Power Rods need to score best at 45 feet, but as you’ll see, there are several rods that scored very well at all distances. Nice and delicate but the tip felt too slow to give me really good accuracy as I was getting with the top four rods. Better at mid-distance and this seems to be the sweet spot for the G2. Below the final results charts we have listed the exact repair charges for each manufacturer. The Shadow is an attractive rod. There are no other rods in our Shootout that are as smooth, dampen as quickly, or track as well as the NRX+ rods. So we did our testing without any appreciable wind. The new Douglas Sky G was exceptionally light in swing weight, noticeably better than all other presentation rods. On nice days when had little wind, we did the casting outside on our lawn here at the shop. When I’m nymph fishing I often switch to one of our Hot Butt Leaders that utilizes five feet of fluorescent red Amnesia for the butt section, followed with the same clear Maxima we use in our Clear Butt leaders. PRODUCT DESCRIPTION: Designed with the analysis methods we developed for G5 Technology. The best Presentation Rods as well as the best power rods need to score 19.5 points or better here to be in contention for top honors. Nearly all the top rods today are using extremely good quality cork in their grips. Surprisingly better than either the Scott G or Winston Air. Its a fast action rod that Sage fans will instantly recognize. A brown composite wood insert is used that complements the guide wrap color. Help us keep posting great reviews. The LL rods were only made for a couple of years and are highly sought by rod aficionados, going for big bucks on Ebay! The Expeditor service for the NRX+ or NRX+ LP rods is $100, while the IMX Pro rods are $85.00. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Our goal with all our Rod and Gear Shootouts is to provide you – the consumer, with what we feel are unbiased and honest reviews to help you pick the best products for your needs. $60 handling fee. The cork handle is a half wells design with some fancy cork rings at the bottom. For most grips this is at the midpoint in the swell, or close to the center of the grip. Despite everything arriving together, I reviewed the reel separately here....so now it's the rod's turn for critique! Swinging streamers across the current or fighting a big brown that wants to run in that direction would be well match with the Response. Looking back at past specs from the NRX LP, the new NRX+ LP is slightly lighter in overall weight but substantially lighter in swing weight. In addition to alignment dots on the ferrules, one of the nicer things Scott added to this rod are fish length wraps, marked at both 12 and 20 inches. The reel seat is pretty drab for a rod in this price range, utilizing an anodized black aluminum up-lock seat with a synthetic gray insert – no fancy wood here. As far as the cosmetics are concerned, I’m not a fan of all the white they use on the butt section, but that has become a trademark by now and on the rod rack, the Helios 3 rods jump right out at you. The Flight, and the FLi before it, was one of Sage's best selling rods and I was eager to cast it. NR! The best Presentation Rods need to perform exceptionally well at short distances. The swing weight of the rod is the weight you feel out ahead of your hand, holding the rod horizontally. Admittedly, I didn’t pay much attention when Sage announced the new TROUT LL rod. He and Chloe are also responsible for many of the great photographs you’ll find in our Shootouts. T&T uses a silver anodized aluminum skeleton seat with a single up-locking ring, which seems to work well enough. A rod’s ability to make delicate and accurate presentations with small flies and long leaders is the key to scoring well here. Better than both the NRX+ LP and Helios 3F in close. A more substantial reel seat with double uplocking screws gave it added bonus points versus similarly priced rods like the Redington Link or Winston Passport. Free shipping on many items ... Sage Graphite 8 ft. 2 Piece Fly Rod 5/6 Line Weight. You’ll see my comments in the main body of the Shootout, but you’ll want to also read the comments from James and our other staff members- Logan Brown, Francis Clougherty and Chloe Nostrant. Get this rod here. This rod is midnight blue with darker blue wraps. Usually takes 4-6 weeks. Douglas – Lifetime warranty for original owner only. Shipping is from their US warehouse, usually takes 2 weeks. We’ve gotten to know the Zephrus well over the past few years and it has consistently been a great performing rod, winning our 2019 4-weight Shootout, and placing 3rd in our last 5-weight Shootout. Only the NRX+ LP was as good. Standard cork rings are used and are as close to perfect as you’ll see, something we have come to expect with Hardy rods. You are familiar this term if you play golf. Sage Salt HD Model #1290-4pc 12 Wt., 9', 5 oz.,Fly Fishing Rod, Never Used! Most rods rated 9.5 had a $50 fee. Howard is a terrific angler and one of the best I’ve fished with. Rods are replaced not repaired. Winston gives us two new rods, the Winston Air and their beefy Alpha+. Rods with softer tips help you reduce break-offs like these. Some categories, like price, overall weight and swing weight are objective, while the other categories are subjective and represent our opinions. Anglers have loved the performance it provides at a nice price. Mid-range is the H3F’s best distance and here it is wonderful. For others, seeing how a rod performs in an expert caster’s hands convinces them it would make them great anglers as well, or at least take them to the next level. The new Loomis NRX+ finishes first overall, followed closely by the Scott Radian in 2nd and Asquith in 3rd. The Douglas Sky G in the performance category is $795.00. The “slowest action” Sage rod is the Trout LL, … Another thing that sets the Winston rods apart from others is their use of nickel silver in the reel seat, cork and winding checks. We were particularly interested to see how this new SKY G would compare to the re-designed Loomis NRX+ LP. On my own 5-weight rods, I’m normally using a 12-foot leader, with tippets from 4x to 6x, fishing dry flies. Now you’ll be able to launch a medium sized streamer seventy-five feet with ease. Such a rod is designed for raw power. It is certainly one of the best mid-priced rods in the Shootout. Sage – Lifetime warranty to original owner. Discover Sage's legendary performance fly rods. Get the best deal for SAGE 8 Line Weight Fly Fishing Rods from the largest online selection at eBay.com. Where the big difference comes in is how much the rods flex in the tip. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. With your new rod they include a FedEx call tag so that it does not cost you anything to return your broken rod. One composite ring is used at the bottom for durability. The new G. Loomis NRX+ LP comes in 2nd followed closely by the Orvis Helios 3 and Hardy Zephrus. If they can do that, the accuracy is almost always excellent. Having multiple outfits set up allows us to do this easily. Often only subtle differences separate one rod from another. Often novices entering the sport of fly-fishing opt for one of the least expensive rods, but we’ve found that it makes more sense to spend the money on one of the better performing rods, as this will allow an angler to develop his or her casting skills much more rapidly. In past Shootouts we tried measuring swing weight in other ways, including calculations for the Moment of Inertia, taking the weight of all 4 sections individually and then plugging these figures into an equation. One of the more interesting deflection boards shows the previous 5-weight winner – the old G. Loomis NRX LP – along with the new NRX+ LP, as well as the Sky G that is our Presentation Rod winner as well as the NRX+, the Power Rod winner. However, if all rods are measured on the same day, the relative numbers will be consistent. Rods are repaired or replaced. A more flexible tip would help a lot in close. The overall results charts show you the various categories we scored the rods at. This would not be a pleasant rod to do a lot of false casting with, if you are fishing dry flies. Also, by having 8-10 rods set up, 2-3 testers can simultaneously do the casting in the same positions. The new Sage LL and the Winston Air were disappointing and finished at the bottom of the pack. Combined with the new materials and resin is what Fred calls a “G ARMOR” coating. Casting both the Sage Response and the Redington Link on the same day, the Sage was noticeably more accurate. Either stick a BB size split shot right on the head of your streamer and fish it with your floating line, or better yet switch off to a WF-6-F/S 15 foot type 6 sink tip line. This auction includes the items shown in photos. This is a good example of a medium action rod. They’re also lighter than the old NRX rods, which is always a bonus. Some people might consider high priced rods status symbols. Everyone else uses far less fancy anodized aluminum. These Amplitude lines utilize SA’s AST Plus slickness additive for superior shooting ability and increased durability. I don’t think people voting at IFTD ever cast this rod. The guide set is perfect, starting with one of the new CERECOIL stripping guides that use a nickel Titanium frame and a Zerconia ring insert designed so that it cannot come out of the frame, even as the frame flexes. The more expensive rods in this Shootout like the Orvis Helios 3F and 3D are $100 more at $898.00. I’m getting nicely formed loops and pretty good accuracy that is not far off the better rods. It’s Sage’s signature rod, and when Jerry Siem (Sage’s rod designer) designs a fly rod like this – he does it right. Watching Howard cast, the only guy I’ve seen that could match him drilling long tight loops is perhaps Steve Rajeff. When I first started casting this rod I was sure it would be close to the top of the presentation rods but it was simply not as accurate as the SKY G or NRX+ LP in close and seemed to run out of gas at long range. We debated on whether to use the newer Winston Pure or the Air in our presentation rod category, but in casting the two rods, we felt that the Air gave us slightly better performance. The craftsmanship is excellent and as with the Zephrus, Howard Croston has given us a rod with a nice fast action that performs best at close to medium distances. The cork handle is a cigar style grip with very little swell and feels good in my hand. Action -Medium; The 5 weight 8’6″ Orvis Helios 3F might be the best weight fly rod for trout fishing. The lighter Zephrus uses Sintrix 440, while the Shadow uses the lower modulus (and heavier) Sintrix 220. The heavy swing weight hurt here and I was getting little feel. The SKY G is an attractive rod, finished in a dark gray color, with black wraps. This is a result of Beulah’s use of the most advanced graphite materials combined with their new Graphene resin. To achieve boosted performance and feel over the old NRX series, Steve utilized new Mega Modulus+ graphite. For those of us who have been at this long enough, you'll remember when Greys left us some 6 (or so) years ago to become a European only brand. Why test with 12-foot leaders? Keep in mind that what you read here are only our opinions. R.L. Guides start out with a hook keeper, then a single SIC stripping guide, followed with black, hard chrome snake guides. I’m not getting quite as much feel as with the SKY G though. Fenwick– Lifetime warranty. The increased dampening and recovery also result in superior accuracy, which immediately impressed me when casting and comparing the SKY G to the other top 5-weight rods. 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